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The kind of cybersecurity learning that really helps students learn.
Because we spoke to Black Hat MEA 2025 speaker Daniel Bowden (CISO at Marsh McLennan), and he said:
“Students need hands-on experience with real threats and challenges – not just shadowing or menial tasks.”
As the cybersecurity talent gap continues to widen, the industry is waking up to the truth that bringing more people into cyber means very little if those people aren’t well-prepared. And to be prepared, you have to have faced real challenges and contributed to real work – and developed your technical skills and decision-making confidence as a result.
But no one can have that kind of experience before they’ve done the work. So to create a new generation of highly capable cybersecurity professionals, we have to rethink how we design internships and early career programs.
For a long time, cybersecurity internships have looked more like observation decks than training grounds. Students are often assigned repetitive tasks, sidelined from real incidents, or shadowed by mentors without ever taking the lead.
And the result is that they enter the workforce with theoretical knowledge; but very little practical ability to respond to evolving threats.
That’s bad for them. But it’s also a risk to everyone – because organisations need agile, hands-on defenders from day one.
Bowden described what makes student learning impactful: exposure to real-world threats, collaboration across departments, and contributions that matter. That’s the model behind Marsh McLennan’s Tech Gig program – a global initiative that brings together 20–25 security professionals and 35+ participants from across business and technology units to solve real problems and build cross-functional understanding.
Very much removed from checkbox exercises, this kind of structure gives participants a seat at the table – so they have a real opportunity to think critically, ask questions, and build networks.
Here’s what it looks like in practice:
Beyond Marsh McLennan, several global initiatives are pioneering this approach:
Each of these models shares a common thread:
Trust.
They trust interns to engage, think, and contribute. And they provide just enough scaffolding to help them succeed without shielding them from reality.
We know that cybersecurity is increasingly embedded in every part of a modern business. It’s no longer a siloed discipline; and this complexity demands defenders with the skills to communicate risk and collaborate across departments. They have to be able to make fast decisions with limited information, and understand the strategic context of their technical skills.
Internships are where that mindset can develop. But only if we treat early talent as capable contributors instead of passive observers.
As Bowden put it: “Empowering students with real work enhances their development – but it also strengthens our collective resilience.”
It’s time for more organisations to take that seriously.
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